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From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Using MS-Kermit 3.14 with PPP under WIN 3/95 Possible?
Message-Id: <1995Dec6.151306.68948@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 6 Dec 95 15:13:06 MDT
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In article <4a3ldp$aad@blues.epas.utoronto.ca>, kan@blues.epas.utoronto.ca (Raymond Kan) writes:
> Hi,
>
> I connect to my mainframe using PPP, and I am not happy with
> the Telnet client that comes with Windows 95 and would like to use
> Kermit instead (for keyboard mapping and downloading). However, I
> have not been able to this.
>
> I had made appropriate changes in mscustom.ini and typing
> check TCP gives response of TCP/IP is available. However after typing
>
> set port tcp/ip hostname
> connect
>
> and I get an error message of
>
> Cannot attacj to an Ethernet Packet Driver or a Novell ODI driver.
> Unable to initialize TCP/IP system, quitting.
> ?Cannot start the connection.
>
> and my PPP connection went dead as well.
>
> I am wondering what I need to do to get MS-Kermit 3.14 to work
> as my Telnet client. I read the FAQ but that was no discussion of PPP.
> Some discussion on SLIP seems to suggest that MS-Kermit is not
> supposed to work easily to get TCP/IP under Windows environment. But
> Kermit is my favorite communication program, so any suggestions as to
> how I can get it to work would be greatly appreciated. BTW, OS/2
> Kermit works flawlessly under PPP so I think it should also be
> possible for MS-Kermit to work under PPP.
--------------
The message above is accurate: no Ethernet Packet Driver nor an
ODI driver. It could have added a SLIP Packet Driver too.
PPP is a mess, both within the PPP modules on the market and most
importantly in there being no common API (top layer where programs such
as Kermit can access them). Kermit supports PPP drivers from Novell and
Telebit. That's all I have that work. MERIT's driver has never worked here.
MS-DOS Kermit has no common ground with Microsoft's "32-bit" networking
material so please save yourself some trouble by not combining them. MSK
works fine with Novell's 16-bit ODI material. Kermit-95 (commercial) works
with Microsoft's TCP/IP stack.
To use MSK with Win95, and my site does so on a large scale, then
use Novell's VLM style ODI material for lan access, or use a SLIP driver
or use one of the two PPP drivers noted above. Please keep in mind that
only one TCP/IP stack can access a comms channel, so duplicate stacks mean
you are out of luck.
Finally, your last sentence needs to take into account that those
situations involve using that vendor's native TCP/IP stack. MSK is not a
Windows program (else you would not be able to use it at DOS level) and
thus it does not couple to the Windows-only MS TCP/IP stack.
Joe D.